tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post5083239904838123749..comments2023-12-06T00:23:28.790+11:00Comments on Press gallery reform: A vote against the mediaAndrew Elderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-80922506671249182372013-09-06T22:08:40.362+10:002013-09-06T22:08:40.362+10:00I cannot agree with your comment that the fifth es...I cannot agree with your comment that the fifth estate is the sole prevail of the "highly engaged professional minority".<br /><br />I do not in any way fit that particular demographic, in fact I am so far removed from that description that you may well perceive me to be an alien.<br /><br />But I am an older Australian with a deep and abiding concern for the future of this country and the future of my grandkids and their kids.I was drawn to the fifth estate because of my disgust with the msm, be it the newspapers or electronic media, but mostly because I discovered to my dismay that the publically funded broadcaster was no longer impartial, but rather had aligned with a particular political party, so no longer could I rely on the abc for an impartial view and the reporting of facts rather than opinion.<br /><br />This blog has been a panacea for me, well written,serious analysis and a balance that is so lacking in the old media. It is not my only source of information, but it is the one that I probably respect the most because even when I disagree the argument is always compelling.<br /><br />I will continue to anticipate every new article on PH, because I am never disappointed and on Monday I know that there will be some sanity here where there is naught but fawning,grovelling sycophancy elsewhere. <br />And for that I say, thank you very much Andrew ElderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-83891393906288621242013-09-06T12:15:31.245+10:002013-09-06T12:15:31.245+10:00Whatever happens tomorrow keep writing this blog p...Whatever happens tomorrow keep writing this blog please Andrew.<br /><br />We need intelligent voices discussing Australian politics and especially the failures of the media to accurately examine it. so whoever wins it'd be great if you could stick at it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-36834096186489973062013-09-06T09:28:58.083+10:002013-09-06T09:28:58.083+10:00Lets take the attention away from Mr Abbott..
I r...Lets take the attention away from Mr Abbott..<br /><br />I really hope Ms Mirabella loses her seat..<br /><br />To have a woman that is regarded as being so nasty and repugnant with a temperant to match is embarrassing to our political class..<br /><br />Prospective politicians should be vetted carefully to never allow people of her calibre in ministerial positions.<br /><br />Simon Sheik should be happy if she loses...<br /><br />I certainly will along with the independents who branded her as the nastiest person in parliament..<br /><br />Mr Abbott is nice compared to her..a bit of perspective please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-84158984064684154072013-09-05T19:53:55.805+10:002013-09-05T19:53:55.805+10:00As the mother of a daughter in her 20s, I find tha...As the mother of a daughter in her 20s, I find that comment by Mr Abbott deeply offensive.Fionanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-38762914914242872952013-09-05T13:43:33.888+10:002013-09-05T13:43:33.888+10:00thank Andrew for keeping us sane, days when we th...thank Andrew for keeping us sane, days when we think like you, but fear we are wrong we come and find clarity, they say its close, may be we are to scared to be optimistic, sometimes one is prepared for the worst the opposite happens, like medical test for example a worry over childrens exams examples,. I am staying strong with Andrew coming down with being positive. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-66090409421092491482013-09-05T13:26:02.684+10:002013-09-05T13:26:02.684+10:00where was he when he expressed that about his daug...where was he when he expressed that about his daughters<br /> I am in hiding but still volunteering hoping is close, hear it is so get out vote , don't be fooled by polls I heard the polls had Obama behind the day before is it that they don't want you to vote, think, also think of this and worry Barnaby joyce acting pm <br /> yes thought that woud make u take notice voteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-26899550734398678212013-09-04T22:46:19.214+10:002013-09-04T22:46:19.214+10:00Fascinating to watch Mr Abbott on kitchen cabinet ...Fascinating to watch Mr Abbott on kitchen cabinet tonight.<br /><br />He had some interesting things to say about Malcolm Turnball and Julia Gillard.<br /><br />A warm exchange with a response to her in an airport lounge regarding the disgusting behaviour towards her in parliament<br /><br />Sorry you had a hard time...<br /><br />Unbelievable empathy from this man??<br /><br />His Catholicism has had a strange affect on his career and ideology with an old Uni friend being a corporate high flyer and boasting about his international contracts whilst he was studying to be a priest....<br /><br />That did it for Tony to enter politics...<br /><br />He has a very akward laugh and his boxing demeanor has added to his meathead image..<br /><br />My goodness what is this man going to say or do that will give comedians so much material to work with?? <br /><br />Yes and that sleazy Big Brother comment was a pathetic attempt to win the youth eh??<br /><br />Wow!! <br /><br />Creepy Tony is not leadership material but i respect his conservatism in some strange way.<br /><br />That's all he has going for him and his fitness regime.<br /><br />He has modelled himself on Howard so it will be John Howard part 2.<br /><br />Sigh sigh sigh sigh<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-73354694704861279352013-09-04T15:06:06.617+10:002013-09-04T15:06:06.617+10:00I'm the one with the good looking daughters......I'm the one with the good looking daughters...<br /><br />Mr Abbott to an audience..<br /><br />Wow!!<br /><br />Weirdo comment today!!<br /><br />How many times do you have to get knocked over the head to realise you are saying really bizarre things??<br /><br />Seriously we deserve much better than this man ??<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-77907845925492606862013-09-04T10:09:16.210+10:002013-09-04T10:09:16.210+10:00http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/27/how-the-libera...http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/27/how-the-liberal-party-left-malcolm-fraser-behind/<br /><br /><br />An oldie but a great analysis of the liberal party decline...<br /><br />So sad!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-40780309523682313842013-09-04T00:28:07.629+10:002013-09-04T00:28:07.629+10:00Amanda Vandstone on The Observer effect said it al...Amanda Vandstone on The Observer effect said it all really....<br /><br />Mr Abbott is quirky and blokey...<br /><br />Decode message for the masses:<br /><br />He's a sexist creep...<br /><br />Lol!! Great spin there Amanda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-39954020685649586242013-09-03T19:46:37.930+10:002013-09-03T19:46:37.930+10:00http://www.smh.com.au/comment/jason-yatsen-li-bein...http://www.smh.com.au/comment/jason-yatsen-li-being-australian-is-not-about-the-colour-of-your-skin-20130830-2sv06.html<br /><br />Brilliant riposte by Jason Yat Sen Li against that dill journalist...<br /><br />cheers Andrew... this guy is future P.m material<br /><br />Go Jason!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-62469893266270925892013-09-02T23:50:39.686+10:002013-09-02T23:50:39.686+10:00Despite its financial deterioration, and attempts ...Despite its financial deterioration, and attempts at influence by the biggest shareholder, Fairfax is still better than the ABC. It's the one mainstream outlet that actually takes the Coalition to task as well as Labor. Yes, there is some very ordinary stuff published and an increasing tilt to tabloidisation but that comes with its parlous financial state sadly.<br /><br />Cuppa<br /><br />PS: I'd also like to add my thanks and gratitude to Andrew Elder for this most enjoyable and thought-provoking blog. Your writing is top-class, your insights lucidly set out. Please do not stop blogging, even if the unthinkable should happen this Saturday. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-86288783304929909692013-09-02T19:24:23.508+10:002013-09-02T19:24:23.508+10:00Thanks Andrew. I agree with most of your post, exc...Thanks Andrew. I agree with most of your post, except one part - 'Does [Kenny] really believe, in spite of all the evidence, that press gallery journalists are indispensible to finding out how we are and shall be governed?'<br /><br />While I do agree that gallery journalists are very much dispensable in the modern political environment, the sad reality is that the Fifth Estate is still largely read by a highly engaged professional minority. I see all the time much less engaged people making a rare foray into political discussion, and invariably what they say can be traced back to the 6pm news or the tabloids. All the rubbish 'accepted wisdom' is out there. <br /><br />I really enjoy your posts. I think where you and I differ is your belief in the ability of less engaged people to step back from the media & make independent assessments of how party policies affect them, based on 'lived experience' alone. I'm just more pessimistic in that front, but we will see.<br /><br />- Martin SpaldingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-75217116939021312872013-09-02T18:44:27.386+10:002013-09-02T18:44:27.386+10:00On the plus side for me personally, my partner has...On the plus side for me personally, my partner has finally, after years of being worked on, agreed to move overseas for a few years. It was the prospect of Abbott winning that was the final straw for him. I still hold out hope it won't happen, but it's a win win for me in a twisted way.<br /><br />I won't be back until the stench is gone, or the money runs out. Either way, it will take a while.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-69351359719374208422013-09-02T18:39:05.143+10:002013-09-02T18:39:05.143+10:00Haha, he never accepted that he lost in 2010, so w...Haha, he never accepted that he lost in 2010, so why not?! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-11373021849226036672013-09-02T17:08:18.902+10:002013-09-02T17:08:18.902+10:00Andrew Elder is one of the bloggers who should be ...Andrew Elder is one of the bloggers who should be compulsory reading for all those who do not believe the Murdoch/Abbott misinformation. I would also add The Political Sword which demolishes Coalition mythology. in its latest blogs. We need to have as much argument as we can, even after the election, and we need to spread the truth far and wide. The good work of Labor is recognised overseas, but here in Oz the Murdoch Muck prevails, apparently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-74286645488894071672013-09-01T21:53:34.069+10:002013-09-01T21:53:34.069+10:00The Herald Sun is read by the masses and bogans......The Herald Sun is read by the masses and bogans...<br /><br />I know v.c.e teachers who would never use that paper for their students EVER.<br /><br />Why bother with crap like that...<br /><br />Become an elitist snob and discerning about brain food.<br /><br />Life is too short for writers like Rita Panahi et al.<br /><br />Life isnt black and white there's plenty of grey....<br /><br />Mr Bolt should have a long lunch with his loyal boganistas and thank them for financing his sons private school education.<br /><br />C'mon its the least they can do!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-3145816548741656952013-09-01T15:14:18.705+10:002013-09-01T15:14:18.705+10:00Absolutely hilarious Anon!!
Superb analogies.
L...Absolutely hilarious Anon!!<br /><br />Superb analogies.<br /><br />Lets add the lovely Miss Janet Albrechtsen to that gold digging list to Mr Michael Kroger....<br /><br />Wow!! <br /><br />Insidious and shallow creepiness with bigoted bogans to that bourgeious tagline.<br /><br />Quite sad when students from Abbotts old school alumni think they are crap.<br /><br />Sad really.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-38300625789360815042013-09-01T15:12:20.443+10:002013-09-01T15:12:20.443+10:00I have found this blog a source of reassurance and...I have found this blog a source of reassurance and sanity for some time now. I too have checked out the mainstream media for the reasons Andrew so eloquently articulates. I do not have the same sense of optimism in the ability of the country to see through this and I think Abbott will win next week. <br /><br />Sure enough he will struggle with the rigor of the job and its many demands, and when the sheen wears off with the media, this lot will really flounder. <br /><br />Sadly we have to sit by an watch this train wreck happen and the centre right or left notion of public good go to the dogs. <br /><br />In the immortal words of Hedley Verity, Andrew "keep going". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-46959534776711420912013-09-01T13:59:12.971+10:002013-09-01T13:59:12.971+10:00No-one suggests it is “all” the media's fault....No-one suggests it is “all” the media's fault. The criticism is that the MSM have failed to report upon the political sphere fairly and to scrutinise all political candidates in the same fashion. Ever since Abbott became Opposition Leader he has prevaricated on every political issue, yet it has been principally the fifth estate which has highlighted the fact.<br /><br />On Friday, I was given a copy of the Melbourne Herald Sun (which does have a big readership) and here are some of the political issues upon which it concentrated: <br />Victorian electricity bills have sky-rocketed due to the carbon tax (no validated data given and I thought we had established that the carbon tax has had little impact on these costs) and people had to get out blankets and put on socks instead of switching on a heater. How awful! People had to use blankets and wear socks in winter!<br />A full page on how the Labor Government had failed<br />The opposite page had a comment about the PM being “playful”, a charity alleging it is being “hit” by the Government's FBT (again no analysis of data), Abbott correcting the bookies' predictions of a landslide (anyone whose vote is determined by Sportsbet or the polls should be counted amongst the insane anyway, so there's no point to this nonsense “report”), an announcement that the “Coalition vows fund to aid communities”, and a large picture of Abbott and net-ballers all smiles and laughing and no mention in the blurb below tit of Abbott's suggestive remark about a little body contact not hurting anyone (which is why the girls were laughing, not with, but at him). <br />The hot topic reader commentary section focussed on the Rudd / Gillard contest (guess they haven't heard it's over) and Phillip Hudson again referring to this with an article headlined: “Absent Julia leaves Kev to fly or flop.”<br />Meanwhile, Beveridge wrote this: “It is unbelievable that anyone could now call Liberal leader Tony Abbott a misogynist when he is promising the absolute Rolls Royce with double foxtails version of parental leave as his signature policy.” Well, is what Beveridge “believes” believable? Guess women would call the Liberal leader a leering chauvinist for his comments to under-age girls (I mean, that was the first thought that came into his mind when they apologised for being sweaty?!), guess women might remember all the other things Abbott has said about women's place in the world and guess that women might think that having children is not the only reason that they exist. <br /><br />The focus was on Coalition policy announcements and was uncritical and highly positive coverage and commentary. There was no coverage of ALP announcements and all coverage and commentary upon their policy was negative. The Labor people/ left have a case. This is organised dissemination of information to persuade voters to a particular cause, aka propaganda. It's up to the MSM to prove otherwise. VoterBentleighnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-4709769467551212972013-09-01T11:11:54.407+10:002013-09-01T11:11:54.407+10:00Speaking of media....
Both leaders are going on k...Speaking of media....<br /><br />Both leaders are going on kirchen cabinet this week with Annabel Crabbe<br /><br />Rage had Julie Bishop, Adam Bandt, Anthony Albanese, Sarah Hanson Young with their favourite music videos..Penny Wong made a brief appearance also<br /><br />The youth vote must be pretty importantor low for them to do this...interesting idea.<br /><br />Pathetic to hear Mr Abbott refer to the crisis in Syria as the baddies against the baddies<br /><br />lol!! <br /><br />This is ludicrous language during an election campaign.<br /><br />Spare me this simpleton slogan mantra !!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-85069524143553858872013-09-01T10:59:01.669+10:002013-09-01T10:59:01.669+10:00Language Andrew....!!
Troll here obviously.
Let ...Language Andrew....!!<br /><br />Troll here obviously.<br /><br />Let it go mate .<br /><br />Your points are valid .<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-1674771258752774952013-09-01T05:31:27.362+10:002013-09-01T05:31:27.362+10:00Furthermore: don't get rid of your little sub-...Furthermore: don't get rid of your little sub-heading. I will never accept Tony Abbott as PM even if it happens. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-56824651230571019982013-09-01T05:29:09.558+10:002013-09-01T05:29:09.558+10:00I second that Lefty E. I am always so delighted to...I second that Lefty E. I am always so delighted to see a new offering appear and marvel at the generosity of spirit which inhabits your work Andrew. Your writing is elegant, amusing and challenging. That all takes time. I appreciate that effort greatly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-6391374186826593082013-08-31T20:37:23.111+10:002013-08-31T20:37:23.111+10:00Elder, you are the finest commentator on Ozpol, an...Elder, you are the finest commentator on Ozpol, and I salute you.Lefty Ehttp://bitemylatte.blogspot.com.au/noreply@blogger.com