tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post5172526587974098527..comments2023-12-06T00:23:28.790+11:00Comments on Press gallery reform: Good analysis requires perspectiveAndrew Elderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-10547767628769245982014-09-16T17:42:17.732+10:002014-09-16T17:42:17.732+10:00Agree Anon. I have given up.Agree Anon. I have given up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-63983564212036987912014-09-16T10:50:28.648+10:002014-09-16T10:50:28.648+10:00Spot on...we can afford to go to a war but there&#...Spot on...we can afford to go to a war but there's a budget emergency...<br /><br />I can't believe they have gotten away with that one!!<br /><br />Let's see some fridge magnets with this terror alert paradigm<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-74537575733636123032014-09-16T07:41:18.069+10:002014-09-16T07:41:18.069+10:00Spot on. Some of the language used is so clumsy in...Spot on. Some of the language used is so clumsy in its attempt to obscure but allow revisionists to point at and say the clues were always there. <br /><br />A favourite of Pyne at the moment. <br /><br />Look at the bruised response to questions about them raising the GST that this was a matter for the states. All of this before cutting funding in a bid to get the states begging for a change. <br /><br />Child likeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-68424554313694663652014-09-15T09:35:09.919+10:002014-09-15T09:35:09.919+10:00It is all going to get worser and worser as the wa...It is all going to get worser and worser as the walrus may have said, as specialty journalism disappears.<br /><br />The current commentary on our accelerating engagement in Iraq and beyond is truly pitiful when provided by the Gallery Names.<br /><br />Without singling anyone out, all I am reading are:<br />. Statements of the bleeding obvious<br />.regurgitation of Prime Ministerial slogans and platitudes, without attribution or analysis;<br />. the paraphrasing of anything put out by officialdom for public consumption and<br />. The incessant repetition of all of the above.<br /><br />What is missing is the provision of historical context and a genuine dissection of possible outcomes, both intended and untended.<br /><br />I do not believe it is possible for run-of-the-mill journalists to provide informative commentary and they should desist and interview people who can shed a light.<br /><br />Alas though, they would probably go to the partisan experts who provide the stuff which can then be regurgitated for easy consumption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-57178892373284365022014-09-13T23:26:27.138+10:002014-09-13T23:26:27.138+10:00thank you Andrew.
I have not seen one press pers...thank you Andrew.<br /><br /> I have not seen one press person, note that Abbott put out a terror alert then says he off to the bush to live in tent with our first people , can some one please ask if the threat is so bad , why is he not in Canberra at his desk. i always get back to the same question if JG had acted like this imagine the write ups<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-73163163469742643622014-09-13T23:06:09.957+10:002014-09-13T23:06:09.957+10:00It doesn't matter what defense procurement doe...It doesn't matter what defense procurement does - it will be a disaster and end up costing us hapless saps billions. So the world turns. From the price of a postage stamp to a joint strike fighter, everything in this country is a gouge. <br /><br />Forget Abbotts' joke - did you hear that dull what's-his-name from Labor soap-boxing to the imaginary audience of 1950s ship builders and fitters.<br /><br />he should have slipped in the one about the Japanese not being able to fly planes. Jesus we're poorly led.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-43646496793166895432014-09-13T17:13:48.988+10:002014-09-13T17:13:48.988+10:00Michael Bachelard pretends to be a journalist but ...Michael Bachelard pretends to be a journalist but today again he is peddling the lie of people smugglers and is amazed that refugees are still fleeing their homes simply because he seems to believe that we have some legal right to actually close our gates to them.<br /><br />We don't it's a lie propagandist for government like Bachelard tell refugees in Indonesia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-88093750477738180072014-09-13T15:17:33.288+10:002014-09-13T15:17:33.288+10:00Seems we are putting a lot of faith in Defence Pro...Seems we are putting a lot of faith in Defence Procurement, and our ability to modify a very complex machine to make it fit for task. Last time we tried to jam our own guts into someone else's machine it didn't go so well (Super Sea Sprite). Haven't seen a single churnalist mention this yet - but that affair might provide for some instructive comparison.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-52523710448389008552014-09-13T14:19:52.228+10:002014-09-13T14:19:52.228+10:00If I remember correctly, the day after Gillard ann...If I remember correctly, the day after Gillard announce the election date (very early), Abbott had a press conference where he made his "pledge" regarding Superannuation, which had an obvious get out in the phrase "no *unexpected* changes, then walked out without allowing questions (except Grattan's one about whether he would live in The Lodge, of course). This should have been a warning to the press about what we were going to get from then on but there was no analysis of (at least) those two matters that I can recall. I knew then that Murphy, Kenny, et al were going to hand Australia to Abbott on a silver platterAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13467071669624321286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-52217323979575285692014-09-13T14:14:01.723+10:002014-09-13T14:14:01.723+10:00"School captains across the country blow the ..."School captains across the country blow the Prime Minister off the stage in terms of writing and giving speeches"<br /><br />They also ask Abbott tougher questions than the Press Gallery doAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17802560863115548436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-7362824219910380742014-09-13T08:59:45.747+10:002014-09-13T08:59:45.747+10:00Andrew I look forward to your commentary and analy...Andrew I look forward to your commentary and analysis of a incompetent lot of political journalist. And in fact they should not be classified as political journalists because i do not see them produce critical review of the policies that are proposed or introduced.<br />I do not spend my income on the purchase of the rubbish that they produce I have long since purchased any publication or contributed to any material coming out of the Murdoch stable the only reach he may have to me is his incursions onto the foolish idiots at the ABC.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-37820195807030491422014-09-13T05:55:14.644+10:002014-09-13T05:55:14.644+10:00Continued ....
Sorry the text froze (does that hap...Continued ....<br />Sorry the text froze (does that happen with other Elder regulars?)<br />I was saying that some journalists seem to think that Abbott's consideration of the priesthood is somehow romantic. I think the whole tortured soul idea led many to misjudge the sort of person Abbott is.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-4012281414885282062014-09-13T05:49:44.070+10:002014-09-13T05:49:44.070+10:00Thanks again for your insightful work Andrew and f...Thanks again for your insightful work Andrew and for the Gourley links.<br />Both passed my test. They will be printed out later on so I can read that densely-packed text with my finger under each word to aid comprehension.<br />I never feel compelled to load up the printer with anything much written by the Big Names of The Galleria.<br />I am often struck by the habit some of those journalists have acquired of parroting back Abbott's well-worn slogans. Maiden's work is peppered with them. If I could scroll back without losing what I have written I would plunder the extracts you have provided, for examples. There seems to be one of those Northern-named Syndromes going on. Some journalists use Abbott's own words but without quotation marks.<br />And as for that Abbott joke Kenny found so amusing! Get some new material Tony. We have heard that one before. It does fascinate me though that reference to Abbott's seminary sabbatical is trotted out so often. I get the idea that it all seems so romanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-6559832735416075012014-09-12T23:54:20.829+10:002014-09-12T23:54:20.829+10:00Thank you for linking to Gourley's article, wh...Thank you for linking to Gourley's article, which is, like your effort, excellent.<br />Ahh, if only there was more like it, where would we be?<br /><br /><br />fredAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-12786584084416792582014-09-12T23:10:15.966+10:002014-09-12T23:10:15.966+10:00Whatever the Press Gallery writes, l believe the o...Whatever the Press Gallery writes, l believe the opposite. Way2fargonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07456734366722986054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-77909355671679626502014-09-12T23:03:04.507+10:002014-09-12T23:03:04.507+10:00Andrew
As you write above: ...the idea of journa...Andrew<br /><br />As you write above: ...the idea of journalists covering politicians is not merely to quote, or even summarise, what they said. It is to check those words against other objective sources of reality, and to evaluate questions of how well we are governed, whether the priorities of the government are those of the nation...<br /><br />Many people, no doubt yourself included, would know that for the last six years, or maybe more, there have been no serious journalists in the press gallery when it comes to LNP campaigning and issues. Stenographers yes, they merely take notes of what is said / dictated, type it and publish. No questions asked. That's what stenographers do. <br /><br />We now have the government we deserve, as practically no-one in the press gallery bothered to correctly perform their chosen profession. Having said that, Rupert Murdoch ultimately decided and dictated to the population the government he believed we Australians must have. Tony Abbott and his mates got a free and unquestioned ride into government and we the Australian sheeple are now paying the price.<br /><br />I hope in two years from now many Australian sheeple will treat journalists, the printed / electronic media with contempt they / it deserve and not get duped like we were in 2013. With the internet things are changing and it seems the established media has less influence than ever before. We can only hope.Taracumbinoreply@blogger.com