tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post704178574073064545..comments2023-12-06T00:23:28.790+11:00Comments on Press gallery reform: Found out 2: When the Beijing smog clearsAndrew Elderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-1814761440160258142014-11-24T17:41:18.371+11:002014-11-24T17:41:18.371+11:00Control freaks is an understatement.. they think t...Control freaks is an understatement.. they think they're gods.<br /><br />Ms Bishop has her inner Thatcherism in place as our foreign minister and it shows.. asbestos Julie and other nasty names are making the rounds via social networking.. her star is rising and i hope they make her p.m and get rid of our current prime minister...if the boys club allows it. Good for the next generation of liberal women to be more sophisticated and softer and less nastier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-52352429559365663802014-11-23T11:55:21.604+11:002014-11-23T11:55:21.604+11:00There are still those people who use their own def...There are still those people who use their own definitions of what a lie is for their own political purposes.<br /><br />A lie is a deliberate deceit spoken at the time knowing that there was no intention of carrying out the 'promise'.<br /><br />This is where the proponents of Gillard's 'lie' have a problem. They have no proof that Gillard was deliberately setting out to deceive.<br /><br />The real deceit comes from the critics who ignore what Gillard said at the time: that she intended to put a price on carbon. What did they think she meant by that?<br /><br />Meanwhile, the Coalition has lied and lied and lied - all well documented. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-83682103500334216002014-11-21T11:50:55.945+11:002014-11-21T11:50:55.945+11:00Like most of Barrie's ...journalist, churnalis...Like most of Barrie's ...journalist, churnalist, and stenographer counterparts in MSM, fools seldom differ. Only a fool would believe Barrie Cassidy is not a fool. Taracumbinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-33835957994489262602014-11-19T21:02:47.899+11:002014-11-19T21:02:47.899+11:00Cogent and insightful. Your blogspot bookmarked fo...Cogent and insightful. Your blogspot bookmarked for frequent fly-in.<br />Most MSN journos remind me of those gape-mouthed clowns at Luna Park, with their heads oscillating; balls being chucked in by the LNP.Paul Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-82720304677279712202014-11-19T18:28:25.072+11:002014-11-19T18:28:25.072+11:00I am setting you an essay topic Andrew.
'But ...I am setting you an essay topic Andrew.<br /><br />'But really, no one knows why the Abbott government is travelling so badly'. - Peter Brent, Mumble blog, the Australian, 19 November, 2014.<br /><br />Two thousand words by Friday 4 pm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-15986145355256800412014-11-19T15:48:05.584+11:002014-11-19T15:48:05.584+11:00I don't know that there's any real evidenc...I don't know that there's any real evidence to suggest that voters are 'increasingly intolerant of lies'. If you have any, let's see it, but I reckon it's a bit of an insult to voters of yesteryear.<br /><br />It may be that lies are able to challenged in an increasing number of fora but that's a significantly distinct claim.<br /><br />- Melena SantorumAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-87134760461329574512014-11-18T22:25:32.312+11:002014-11-18T22:25:32.312+11:00The journalists see themselves - Abbott was never ...The journalists see themselves - Abbott was never anything more than a mediocre Press Secretary for Murdoch Inc.rhwombatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-11143204188928118482014-11-18T05:34:50.293+11:002014-11-18T05:34:50.293+11:00Another unflinching analysis Andrew.
I will neve...Another unflinching analysis Andrew. <br /><br />I will never understand what journalists see in Abbott. <br /><br />That said, I cannot believe that I was once impressed by Malcom Turnbull. <br />I was a real sucker there.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-17624791905027051212014-11-17T15:43:37.206+11:002014-11-17T15:43:37.206+11:00Our MSM are as bad as anything the North Korean gr...Our MSM are as bad as anything the North Korean group thinkers could come up with and the PG are a sick joke. <br /><br />They are carrying on about the big beef on the hoof deal but last night I watched Evan Williams show on Al Jazeera (you can see it on Youtube) about the terrible drought and cows starving to death all over the top end.<br /><br />When Gillard stopped the trade there were cows that had been bred just for Indonesia but we put a bit of cruelty above the livelihoods of farmers and the hunger of Indonesians.<br /><br />Tens of thousands of cattle have now starved to death and graziers owe the banks millions to try and keep some alive - it's a gut wrenching story even for me, I grew up in farmland and weathered many a drought.<br /><br />Nothing like that seen in Qld and NT right now though.<br /><br />Even if we sold 1 millions to China that would mean 1 million richer Chinese would get one cow each.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-45670349226703038732014-11-17T12:38:11.635+11:002014-11-17T12:38:11.635+11:00You know how negotiations (for a free trade agreem...You know how negotiations (for a free trade agreement) go when the weaker party is under pressure? It sells its arse, that's what it does.<br /><br />And Australia is selling its arse to China. That is abundantly clear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-70029398252633743032014-11-17T12:23:00.501+11:002014-11-17T12:23:00.501+11:00"Abbott should take responsibility for his ac..."Abbott should take responsibility for his actions, the Murdoch press should take responsibility for theirs."<br /><br />The former will probably never happen, the latter most decidedly will not happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-27180456095068588672014-11-17T11:40:05.308+11:002014-11-17T11:40:05.308+11:00And Crabbe's 'surprise' thing says tha...And Crabbe's 'surprise' thing says that while there are lots of surprises from this government (ie. broken promises) it's nothing like the previous government (one broken promise over and over and over again).<br /><br />Sounds like she's trying to justify her existence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-51150191530194482632014-11-17T11:04:33.328+11:002014-11-17T11:04:33.328+11:00A further layer of credibility is being shed by th...A further layer of credibility is being shed by the government and the poor performance of the MSM prior to the election is being exposed in relation to broadband. The government has yet to reach agreement with Telstra on the use of its copper. In February Turnbull said the agreement would be concluded in a couple on months and then in June it was the end of the year. When Abbott and Turnbull announced the policy in May 2013 no journalist thought to ask them, how confident are you that you can quickly conclude a deal with Telstra. Well we can see how that is panning out! Someone now needs to ask Turnbull if he is still confident that he will meet his first target of all homes and businesses having 25 - 50 mbps by the end of 2016. This is increasingly unlikely. But unlike Labor, the MSM just seems to wave though the coalition of broadband. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-8245693373741153232014-11-17T10:17:23.685+11:002014-11-17T10:17:23.685+11:00Great analysis
Your opening two paragraphs captur...Great analysis<br /><br />Your opening two paragraphs capture perfectly the total hypocritical herd mentality of the media pack. <br /><br />To the question of why the double standard in coverage between Gillard's carbon tax 'lie' and the myriad of coalition lies, I think this can principally be attributed to Fairfax's political coverage. I've long since given up hoping for any kind of sharp ended analysis from the ABC which is now a shadow of its former self, harrassed, denigrated and clearly scared of its own shadown. <br /><br />Fairfax has disgraced itself with it tepid, mediocre political coverage - its now its letters to the editor section that you can rely on to accurately capture the political moment. Hartcher is clearly busy trying to craft a Paul Kelly faux gravitas to his every utterance and, when he's not toadying to which ever politician of the moment is holding his hand, cannot make any statement of fact without qualifying it or 'balancing it'. <br /><br />Like Mark Kenny, he's also a chief proponent of 'access journalism' - a particular problem with some Fairfax careerists who, who in the face of News Limited functioning as a PR arm of the Coalition, fear that if they don't offer inducements of favourable coverage they risk total alienation and irrelevancy. Its a mindset that sees journalists as 'players' rather than independent critics. <br /><br />SeanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-31477842711144776722014-11-17T09:40:59.176+11:002014-11-17T09:40:59.176+11:00What I learned from G20? When Obama is asked a qu...What I learned from G20? When Obama is asked a question he pauses to collect his thoughts. When Abbott is asked a question he pauses to try to remember what someone told him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-48607026372144616392014-11-17T02:09:23.076+11:002014-11-17T02:09:23.076+11:00Except Julia didn't really lie.
ALP policy a...Except Julia didn't really lie. <br /><br />ALP policy at the 2010 election was an ETS with a 1 year fixed price. With the hung parliament that got changed to a 3 year fixed price. <br /><br />By any fair measure the "Lie" was required to maintain a "core promise". What would Julia have been able to say to people like me who actually voted for her if she hadn't kept her core promises?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-12400520312469971532014-11-17T01:28:19.438+11:002014-11-17T01:28:19.438+11:00I have no idea who you work with but you are wrong...I have no idea who you work with but you are wrong about Gillard which does undermine your credibility. Parroting the MSM is to invite ridicule. Patrickbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09965709616278735547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-75363787431784805752014-11-16T23:01:20.526+11:002014-11-16T23:01:20.526+11:00I think you're either missing or simply implyi...I think you're either missing or simply implying something here, Andrew.<br /><br />The voters are increasingly intolerant of lies.<br /><br />As much as ALPites like to quibble about what "Juliar" really said, she did, in the end lie. And it skewered her.<br /><br />Now, we are seeing signs that voters have had enough. In Victoria, Labor's strategy to anull the East-West link has probably sealed the election for him. It doesn't matter if he's right, and I have no clue if he is; what matters is that the previous government lied when they said they would focus on public transport.<br /><br />Abbott and his neanderthalic government are in trouble because they fail to understand why they won the last election. They didn't receive a mandate ... the Australian public were outraged to the point of frustration about the in-fighting in the ALP.<br /><br />We are probably going through a period where short-term governments are the norm until politicians realise they can't lie.<br /><br />- Joe Fitzpatrick <br />(who teaches an acid-scarred Muslim girl and whose response was not published on here after a poster said s/he "doubted" if I worked with Muslims at all)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-33958115354128237622014-11-16T22:03:43.114+11:002014-11-16T22:03:43.114+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mattoxichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14552242601998972584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-56838354849281626062014-11-16T18:32:09.782+11:002014-11-16T18:32:09.782+11:00Congratulations on yet another nail in the coffin ...Congratulations on yet another nail in the coffin of shit for brains. In a side note shirtfronting is what John Worsfold mastered and why they called him the smiling assassin as his opponents were left horizontal and breathless!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-32439664883077848622014-11-16T17:03:57.779+11:002014-11-16T17:03:57.779+11:00Obama is NOT a republican ,,, is that why?Obama is NOT a republican ,,, is that why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-29262482948445619922014-11-16T17:02:37.651+11:002014-11-16T17:02:37.651+11:00andrew it occurred this grade 10 educated oldie th... andrew it occurred this grade 10 educated oldie that perhaps the G 20 has been good for aus, NOT us we paid for thing, our taxes,,but Business<br />do not<br /> want to look as though are behind it just not a good look for them?<br /><br />when i had my own business within a business ,, looking to the future designing and have samples some 12 out before the next release of products was a must,, forward thinking forward planning always 12 in advance.<br /><br /> Business seeing world leaders here on the front foot going back to their own countries now for this bigger<br /> reason re China & US agreement ,, think wow this so exciting,, Solar ETS and all he business deals that go with it,,<br />,,,,, abbott they will laugh about in the board rooms will they?,,, and will business here say my god we better get our scattes on these people mean business,,,, as they say.<br /> we must no be left out in the cold,,, will they say as look in envy and other leaders ( may be wish they still had wayne swan}<br /><br />is abbott and apostles on the wrong side of history,, are we with out realizing in the beginning of another Industrial Revolution, hope so how exciting,, i don t see abbott around much longer,, in fact i feel there could even be an early election ,, just feel i get,, <br /><br />so all in all Business leader would now see USA and China as world leaders in the new power the SUN and want to be part of surelyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-37152196522855647262014-11-16T13:58:47.575+11:002014-11-16T13:58:47.575+11:00Brilliant. Spot on.
The best of the best?
Possibly...Brilliant. Spot on.<br />The best of the best?<br />Possibly this:<br />"30 years in Canberra and you really don't know? So much for being an insider. Give it away."<br /><br />fredAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-61134272911710036992014-11-16T13:58:38.447+11:002014-11-16T13:58:38.447+11:00Could it be possible, even conceivable that this g...Could it be possible, even conceivable that this govt', in a state of IPA./Murdochian confected hubris, really believes IT is the centre of world policy innovation?...surely it cannot be true that Abbott, Hockey or Bishop, in being granted a "firmly paved", clear run to the top jobs, really believe they must then be the best of the best in that job?<br />It does ring as unbelievable, but Hockey saying that he didn't even listened to Obama's speech..a speech from the most powerful leader in the Western sphere of influence, indeed!..WORLD influence, while occupying the portfolio of treasurer seems eye-wincing unbelievable...but such, are some disastrous moments of historic culpability built upon, to the detriment of entire civilisations.<br />The conclusion must be that these marionettes of the MSM. are as husks blowing in chaotic swirls within the erratic winds of change.<br /><br />jaycee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-54844222466235098062014-11-16T13:01:08.291+11:002014-11-16T13:01:08.291+11:00This morning's paper tells me how the Gallery ...This morning's paper tells me how the Gallery will deal with Abbott's unravelling: Just don't discuss it in too much detailAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13467071669624321286noreply@blogger.com