tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post7044609845987880331..comments2023-12-06T00:23:28.790+11:00Comments on Press gallery reform: Playing the clownAndrew Elderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-74389351688884713312013-05-03T22:50:30.367+10:002013-05-03T22:50:30.367+10:00Oh no. i think it is worth a bucket of warm spit. ...Oh no. i think it is worth a bucket of warm spit. But that's about all.Lachlan Ridgehttps://www.facebook.com/lachlan.ridgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-82303297154862981172013-05-03T09:51:41.680+10:002013-05-03T09:51:41.680+10:00Whoever that was on twitter criticizing you that t...Whoever that was on twitter criticizing you that the length of this blog post was longer than that which it critiqued, must think that cause and effect are equally balanced. Reaction </= Action.<br /><br />Sometimes the implications of actions are far greater than the actions themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-30962762627963339972013-05-02T22:15:08.396+10:002013-05-02T22:15:08.396+10:00I found it well worth reading, myself, Pete. It ma...I found it well worth reading, myself, Pete. It may be long and boring to you but usually DETAILED ANALYSIS is worth doing, to actually judge whether one option is better than another. If you want soundbites then you are going to get shit policy and shit delivery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-38951590035343336612013-05-02T16:52:53.848+10:002013-05-02T16:52:53.848+10:00The Australian political media isn't worth a b...The Australian political media isn't worth a bucket of warm spit. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-8270409041273298942013-05-02T12:21:37.117+10:002013-05-02T12:21:37.117+10:00"If Maley et al think my blogposts are long a..."If Maley et al think my blogposts are long and boring, wait until they see the Budget! No wonder they rely on Abbott so heavily"<br /><br />Andrew, that one paragraph goes close to summing all this up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-75267370339208095342013-05-01T16:53:19.020+10:002013-05-01T16:53:19.020+10:00Hi Kerry,
1. With every fibre of my being I want ...Hi Kerry,<br /><br />1. With every fibre of my being I want to reject the sexism thing. I've not given any of those people sobriquets like 'The Situation' (Abbott) or 'The Verbal Dickhead' (Coorey), yet recent history points to the pattern you describe. I will be more mindful of it. <br /><br />I am pretty close to writing Maley off, much as I did with Niki Savva. I don't have it in for Alcorn, I just think she has a Kerenskyist approach that she just can't shake. Looking at the broadcast media I do consume, it does tend to feature a number of female reporters; I tend to avoid commercial TV/radio and the tabloids, which tend to be male-dominated. I offer that as an explanation rather than an excuse.<br /><br />2. Old-school journos used to be proud of their ability to cut through the bullshit. Today journos are proud of the extent to which they are part of the bullshit, praising the generation thereof and giving substantial offerings such a coating that they smell like bullshit. This is not a change that anyone has to accept. Bushfire Bill (whose comment is on this thread) is big on this too.<br /><br />3. It is impossible to understand recent stories like the Boston bombing or the Indonesian abattoir expose without understanding broadcast media and social media as inextricable parts of a whole phenomenon. <br /><br />Social media people get it but only some broadcast media people do. I love how journos characterise bloggers as wannabe journos, yet with all these broadcast media redundancies it seems a career in journalism is just an expensive form of training for setting up your own blog.<br /><br />4. If Maley et al think my blogposts are long and boring, wait until they see the Budget! No wonder they rely on Abbott so heavily.Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-62764437572250127092013-05-01T15:26:42.664+10:002013-05-01T15:26:42.664+10:00Well said Anonymous!Well said Anonymous!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-32893524418336180552013-05-01T12:40:51.542+10:002013-05-01T12:40:51.542+10:00It's they who think their critics have NFI.
T...It's they who think their critics have NFI.<br /><br />THEY have "The Savvy", and Maley is a particularly egregious example of that.<br /><br />At least now it's confirmed who's she's working for. That was a truly awful article that she'll never live down.Bushfire Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-50619929321174783532013-05-01T11:55:58.500+10:002013-05-01T11:55:58.500+10:00Spot on. Spot on. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-14666895410297092662013-05-01T11:06:20.899+10:002013-05-01T11:06:20.899+10:00First class analysis once again,
Characteristic ...First class analysis once again, <br /><br />Characteristic of Maley's superficiality that she can be offended by it without being able to read it.Gorgeous Dunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10540625260311418333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-48052903266496010422013-05-01T10:03:58.337+10:002013-05-01T10:03:58.337+10:00Indeed. The criticism is that complicated policy i...Indeed. The criticism is that complicated policy is beyond their ability. Their defence against that criticism? 'Oh, can't be bothered with that, it's too long.'<br /><br />It beggars belief.<br /><br />And if it's all the same to Ms Maley, I'd rather my Prime Minister be slightly more intelligent than me. Tends to work better that way. Still, big deal, eh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-43037953634987624172013-05-01T09:55:09.185+10:002013-05-01T09:55:09.185+10:00And if you want to understand a complicated world ...And if you want to understand a complicated world why don't you learn how to read more than a pathetic three world slogan.<br /><br />Seriously, this is how Abbott's Coalition is dumbing down Australia in order to get power. What a farce.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-86634205199325964862013-05-01T06:04:35.733+10:002013-05-01T06:04:35.733+10:00Excellent article, Maley's work is just as dam...Excellent article, Maley's work is just as damaging in some ways asthe rabid Bolts of the world as on some level we expect credible work from her. Insipid nonsense as all her work is. Let's get rid of their picture bylines for a start. They do all so believe in their own bullshit. If I am ever given an opportunity I will be giving the Prime Minister a standing ovation. I love her dignity, warmth and intelligence, her humour and her belief in education in improving the lot of kids stuck in a low socioeconomic class with no way out. These journalists have no fucking idea and care even less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-62688106380641656602013-04-30T23:56:24.820+10:002013-04-30T23:56:24.820+10:00Oh no
Not Speersy!
I like David Speers and his ...Oh no <br /><br />Not Speersy!<br /><br />I like David Speers and his analysis!<br /><br />Laura Tingle bless her cotton socks just shines<br /><br />She calls the advisers idiots<br /><br />Gold!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-27377501249493580762013-04-30T22:44:16.672+10:002013-04-30T22:44:16.672+10:00Watch Obama.....
Watch Abbott.....
Simple reall...Watch Obama.....<br /><br />Watch Abbott.....<br /><br /><br />Simple really <br /><br />Hes a dud and I can already see Diplomats smirking out of discomfort when he approaches them..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-22403545170967289582013-04-30T18:33:02.744+10:002013-04-30T18:33:02.744+10:00Like I said on Twitter, these journos are behaving...Like I said on Twitter, these journos are behaving like they have "Battered Wife Syndrome". They accept being treated like fools (Abbott running away is the classic example) and rather than fight back, they hunch over and simply transmit the press release, or the weasel words, verbatim.<br /><br />Even Sales succumbed last week.<br /><br />The Prime Minister dismissed this version of journalism (and the 'pet journo' method) very early in the piece. But instead of respecting her for same, they wanted revenge ... thus they sided with the foolish Abbott (who, lets face it, should NEVER had gotten to the position he has ... he is a pedestrian 'also ran' with an anger management problem ... not PM material AT ALL).<br /><br />Like many in the public eye, who live or die because of popularity, they have hitched their coattails and are determined to be right, even when they know they're wrong.<br /><br />Integrity is the first casualty.<br /><br />JenauthorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-47805768193037314222013-04-30T18:30:13.070+10:002013-04-30T18:30:13.070+10:00Thank you Andrew another excellent article and the...Thank you Andrew another excellent article and the clowns of the press gallery control who can be a member. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-14724017226554124842013-04-30T17:46:30.245+10:002013-04-30T17:46:30.245+10:00(c) "the devil is in the detail". I thin...(c) "the devil is in the detail". I think the whole election is on a knife-edge because everyone's so ambivalent, and this fatalism is misplaced. <br /><br />Maley tweeted me today (deleted the second) and brought the Streisand Effect down on herself. <br /><br />If you take them apart line by line, you're boring; if you are direct and pungent they sniff that you're facile. Oh well.Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-90803593058550631272013-04-30T17:44:21.097+10:002013-04-30T17:44:21.097+10:00I have really given up on them all. What does crap...I have really given up on them all. What does crap me off, is the nice earners these lightweight lazy so-called journalists get for throwing together a few words praising Tony Abbott.<br /><br />PuffyTMD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-56029526369465256422013-04-30T17:34:02.067+10:002013-04-30T17:34:02.067+10:00Maintenance would be cut back, it would be left to...Maintenance would be cut back, it would be left to rot.Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-31716735875154177712013-04-30T17:31:56.692+10:002013-04-30T17:31:56.692+10:00No it isn't. By going through those articles l...No it isn't. By going through those articles line by line I have given those articles the respect they deserve. Plenty of people busier than you read through to the end.<br /><br />I don't want to be a journalist. I've given three examples of professional journalists who can't write and can't tell what's going on, yet still draw salaries. What I need is perceptive journalism, good writing nice but not essential. You have to take apart the crap to understand what good stuff looks like, like I've done here.Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-3399200409027087702013-04-30T17:30:38.554+10:002013-04-30T17:30:38.554+10:00I see that Maley tweeted this article was too long...I see that Maley tweeted this article was too long for her to bother with, kinda explains her indepth analysis of Tony Abbott. Suenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-41434141673734347442013-04-30T17:28:30.806+10:002013-04-30T17:28:30.806+10:00Pete
"Pete30/4/13 4:08 pm
Fuck me this is a ...Pete<br /><br />"Pete30/4/13 4:08 pm<br />Fuck me this is a long and boring article. These crazy articles do the left a massive disservice.<br /><br />If you really want to make a change, how about learn how to write and become a journalist?"<br /><br />It is boring to you because you're not used to listening to anything other than a three-word slogan, much less digesting nuance of policy.<br /><br />One day you may become an adult. Until then I suggest you make excuses for not being eligible to vote.<br /><br />Kerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08393696100943583684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-2526110836593047052013-04-30T17:24:57.026+10:002013-04-30T17:24:57.026+10:00Cont from previous comment . . .
I reckon Gillard...Cont from previous comment . . .<br /><br />I reckon Gillard has taken economics between the teeth. Has made a study of it and mastered its intricacies. Abbott, on the other hand, even though he has a degree in economics, can’t abide the subject and, worse, can’t even articulate an economic program.<br /><br />Prior to becoming PM, Julia Gillard was responsible for the Education portfolio, and had only to answer for coming in on budget. <br /><br />Once in the top job, she had to get her head round economic theories, economic practices and economic outcomes.<br /><br />Like most thinking women – unlike Margaret Thatcher who, just like any bloke in power took an opportunistic avenue to garner support (war in the Falklands, anyone?) – when approaching a problem, Gillard comes at it from an honest perspective. <br /><br />Let’s lay the facts out on the table. Let’s see what can be achieved. Let’s see the downside – for each an every proposal. A thrashing out of detail.<br /><br />What more do you want in a leader?<br /><br />I know what I want. And it’s not Tony Abbott and his figurehead style while his troops go AWOL – and we’re left with the foibles of his ill-disciplined troops.<br /><br />I'd rather a solid leader like JG who has consistently told it how it is, despite opinion polls, and who has consistently displayed the utmost integrity.<br /><br />That Gillard is tagged as a liar is the shame the Canberra Press Gallery will have to bear. After all, it is their fault they do not convey to the Australian public what is really going on.<br /><br />It will be to Australia's detriment that we dispose of a great PM, for a clown.<br /><br />I can't even cry. I'm ashamed of our once great journalist tradition. Where are the keepers of integrity? Where is the "striking" power of journos in the face of owner-dictatorship? Gone.<br /><br />Keeping a job is more important now. The lifestyle, the kudos. Journos don't want to know the life of poverty, the garret. They will sell their souls for the almighty dollar.<br /><br />Murdoch understands.<br /><br />All we have left is an impotent press gallery who have no recognition, let alone affinity with, 'ordinary' people - their own constituents.<br /><br />It beggars belief that Chris Johnson, the supposedly unknown Press Gallery reporter, late of Canberra Times and now of SMH, who wrote such a blindingly poignant obit for Peter Veness, is now castigated as a non-entity.<br /><br />What did he do? He criticised the fifth estate for some pretty paltry remarks on Sales' interview with Abbott.<br /><br />What he took on was fair enough, but he went too far. And tried to tarnish social media with far too broad a brush.<br /><br />Journos really have to lift their game. They have to take it on the chin when they're criticised. As do we all.<br /><br />And they also have to realise they no longer have a privileged position.<br /><br />We're here to stay. Get used to it.<br />Kerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08393696100943583684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-34295052733789291232013-04-30T17:21:53.147+10:002013-04-30T17:21:53.147+10:00I have to wonder at your motive sometimes: why do ...I have to wonder at your motive sometimes: why do you consider it a feature of your analysis that you concentrate on trashing the commentary of female journos (Alcorn, Grattan, Maley, et al) when there is such a glut of male journo contributions that you could equally tear to shreds with such alacrity?<br /><br />(Although, you do mention them, it is addition, not the concentrated effort you seem to put into bewailing journalism in general).<br /><br />That aside, I agree.<br /><br />The fourth estate seems too busy defending itself rather than reporting what's going on.<br /><br />How many articles have we had recently about (after scathing attacks by 'social' media) what the job of a journo is about and how hard it is to do it e.g. Katherine Murphy (many) vs Tony Wright (getting in on the act)?<br /><br />All they want to do is justify their existence, and we have page after expensive page of ruminations on the lot of journos, but no illumination on the current political scene.<br /><br />It was interesting to read today that a reporter, Callum Davidson from Independent Australia, http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/business/media-2/how-the-canberra-press-gallery-shut-out-ia/ was refused acceptance to the Canberra Press Gallery, by David Speers & council, on the grounds that Independent Australia was just an opinionated online vehicle that wasn’t a newsgathering enterprise and that Callum himself had no "history" as a journo, while just recently TheHoopla trumpeted that Gabrielle Chan, a political "sketch writer", had been accepted into the self-same hallowed halls.<br /><br />If Independent Australia can be characterised as an opinionated website, then TheHoopla is also an ‘opinionated online’ presence.<br /><br />All that being said, Jacqueline Maley’s crap about examining Abbott’s previous 7.30 contributions fail to take into account that apart from Sales’ (self-nominated Walkley-winning) interview and Abbott’s election-losing interview with Kerry O’Brien prior to the 2010 election, all of his other interviews (on serious channels) have been pre-recorded. <br /><br />Therefore the stuttering, muttering, ill-at-ease, economically-illiterate Abbott has been edited out. So much for ‘balance.’<br /><br />I’d really like to see an up-to-date opinion of Julia Gillard. She made an absolute gaffe on her first overseas journey as PM. It was an off-the-cuff remark that she’d prefer to be reading with schoolkids than embarking on foreign policy (much like Garrett’s “we’ll change everything once we’re in power” type of gaffe) – as if either should have been taken (much less reported) seriously. Slow news day. More to come . . .<br />Kerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08393696100943583684noreply@blogger.com