tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post686474296035585828..comments2023-12-06T00:23:28.790+11:00Comments on Press gallery reform: Andrew Elderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-25607822633098750352011-05-16T20:00:23.418+10:002011-05-16T20:00:23.418+10:00No, I'm not saying that either. I lived under ...No, I'm not saying that either. I lived under the Bracks and Brumby Governments for five years, I think my head would explode Cronenberg-style if I was exposed to any more Labor taxpayer-funded advertising. At least the Liberal ones have catchy jingles.Seanhttp://onepointzerosixtwofive.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-79509140228645085142011-05-16T19:17:08.656+10:002011-05-16T19:17:08.656+10:00"... the roll out to digital is over a long p..."... the roll out to digital is over a long period and the advertising to those on benefits who are eligible is targeted directly by more than one mail out at a time appropriate to the changeover in their area."<br /><br />Anonymous, I don't doubt that you are doing what you can. I am saying that the minister should do more than he has.<br /><br />"You both seem to be suggesting that a major advertising campaign should be conducted for political purposes to hold off the spin that has just begun by some malicious media manipulators."<br /><br />I'm not saying that - I doubt Sean is, but he can speak for himself. I agree with Drag0nista when she says that <a href="http://dragonistasblog.com/2011/04/25/ad-campaigns-are-the-last-resort-of-failed-lobbyists/" rel="nofollow">ad campaigns are the last resort of failed lobbyists</a>. I'm saying the minister should get off his backside and start promoting this as being a good policy well executed, and say nothing else until even journos wake up to it. <br /><br />Which department does it is a matter that doesn't concern me. Thanks for the link - and your contributions.<br /><br />Notus: I'm with you on the self-overestimating press monkeys!Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-14219316040903598742011-05-16T09:24:29.520+10:002011-05-16T09:24:29.520+10:00Who are the Labor party media managers? How any o...Who are the Labor party media managers? How any of them been moved to "other duties"? Why are they still mucking it up?<br />Maybe Howard's Way of spending as little as possible with a tax break for the wealthy might be worth another go.Notushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03173819673356724711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-45727272634755238932011-05-16T09:02:58.371+10:002011-05-16T09:02:58.371+10:00Sean and Andrew the roll out to digital is over a ...Sean and Andrew the roll out to digital is over a long period and the advertising to those on benefits who are eligible is targeted directly by more than one mail out at a time appropriate to the changeover in their area.<br /><br />If you look below you will see how the very limited and clear eligibility is determined. As I said before I have seen this thing first hand in my area and there have been no bugs or complaints. <br /><br />You both seem to be suggesting that a major advertising campaign should be conducted for political purposes to hold off the spin that has just begun by some malicious media manipulators.<br /><br />It has been treated as an in-house centrelink program, which in my opinion, it should be. And it definitely "opt in" under penalty of making a false declaration if you do not fit quite strict criteria. I actually think the take up around the country will be quite small given that factor.<br /><br />http://www.digitalready.gov.au/government-assistance/household-assistance-scheme.aspxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-26357038529308148972011-05-15T16:54:41.700+10:002011-05-15T16:54:41.700+10:00I think there's a case to be made for saying t...I think there's a case to be made for saying that the media has behaved mendaciously when reporting this government's actions. The most noteworthy example would be the hysterical criticism of the school stimulus program compared with its actual outcomes. But it doesn't follow that, there's a concerted agenda by some sections of the fourth estate to portray the government in a bad light at all costs, which is the sort of allegation you see regularly on the Larvatus Prodeo comment threads and other places. Political journalists in this country have been deadshits for at least as long as I've been reading the paper, for all that time all but the very best of them have carped endlessly over ephemera and let the real scandals go unnoticed or unindicted. Previous governments have transcended this or somehow made it work to their advantage. The incumbents have to take their fair share of the blame. <br /><br />Anonymous, you're wrong to say that governments have to rely on advertising or the fourth estate to gain consent on the governed. I don't presume to be an expert on social media but it's obvious even to my untrained eye that the government's strategy for interacting with people over the internet is appalling. What Andrew says above about Conroy needing to barnstorm the public about this program like he did with the NBN sounds antediluvian but all that tripping over TV cables at shopping centres sort of shit's important too. Since Gillard got up, the Government's scaled back on community cabinet meetings, and since the election the only community appearances by frontbench MPs have been at picfacs in front of windfarms or hard hat and hi res walks through trades training schools. Ministers have sent public servants to get heckled at community meetings in Griffith or Inverbrackie because they haven't had the cajones for a bad photo op. This sort of stuff is difficult, soul-destroying and exhausting, and it can only necessarily reach a small segment of the population at the time, but it's still vitally important in consolidating public support; the fact that the government has failed in these areas show the wider systemic problems with the government's communication strategy.Seanhttp://onepointzerosixtwofive.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-31895981222120197882011-05-15T16:43:14.302+10:002011-05-15T16:43:14.302+10:00Thanks for the link to the George Megalogenis arti...Thanks for the link to the George Megalogenis article, it's fantastic. The mining industry is doing as much harm as good (labour costs and scarcity, high dollar etc), heaven help us should commodity prices suffer a sizeable fall or China should pull on the brakes.<br /><br />We have significant structural weakness in our economy and most people are oblivious to them because there's no national debate about it. To make any negative remark about mining will have you tarred and feathered by both sides of politics. A couple of economic writers have come out and said that it wouldn't be a bad thing to throttle mining output, but it's heresy in the new political orthodoxy.Cantbeeffedhttp://twitter.com/Cantbeeffednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-90167616346541557932011-05-15T12:33:30.673+10:002011-05-15T12:33:30.673+10:00Government has the choice to do labour-intensive v...Government has the choice to do labour-intensive visits to communities, which the media can follow or not follow as they choose. Conroy was effective in getting the NBN up, he could have done something similar with the set-top boxes.<br /><br />The rest, I agree several million percent. The media focus on bullshit, their ratings go down, then they blame everyone but themselves.Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-58243037566946453522011-05-15T08:50:33.072+10:002011-05-15T08:50:33.072+10:00When it comes to mass communication the government...When it comes to mass communication the government only has two choices, using the the forth estate or advertising. As the forth estate seems to have gone into a serious funk where the reportage of anything more serious that the colour of hair, handbag style or the ability to ride a bike doesn't get reported I find it difficult to see how Conroy is at fault.<br /><br />We do have a public broadcaster that is supposed to deal with this issue. Where are they, why are they serving up nothing but trivia.<br /><br />I'm fed up with hearing from the ABC the statement "The opposition said" in the name of balance; I want to hear what the government is doing; that settop boxes are opt in, that you only need them if you want to keep your analog tv and so on.<br /><br />Basically, where the media is currently at is bullshit, and the ABC is part of it, there is no other way to describe it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-35664649607571665572011-05-15T08:48:08.579+10:002011-05-15T08:48:08.579+10:00I'm with Sean - just because "it has been...I'm with Sean - just because "it has been explained" doesn't mean the message has gotten through and has not been distorted by other factors at the receivers' end. With all due respect to Mildura and country Victoria, there appears to be no Old Poor People's Bush Telegraph which has put all concerns to rest. <br /><br />Are the criteria the most appropriate? Is there anything that should be done differently elsewhere?Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-19958673452842350042011-05-15T01:09:47.355+10:002011-05-15T01:09:47.355+10:00Anonymous, if that's true then it's doubly...Anonymous, if that's true then it's doubly damning of the government that they've bungled the communication of this policy.Seanhttp://onepointzerosixtwofive.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-80536343270185192822011-05-14T22:08:51.462+10:002011-05-14T22:08:51.462+10:00"It should be opt-in rather than opt-out or n..."It should be opt-in rather than opt-out or no-opt, with information available for people who don't speak a lot of English or keep up with latest developments in public policy."<br /><br />It has been explained perfectly well to all those who are eligible via numerous Centrelink letters and they can choose whether to take up the offer or not if they fit certain criteria.<br />Such as they have no other means of watching tv other than their existing old television. <br /><br />This is not new and has been rolled out in Mildura and country Victoria with no problems and was definitely "opt in".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com