tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post8272434096650790489..comments2023-12-06T00:23:28.790+11:00Comments on Press gallery reform: Under investigationAndrew Elderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-75049470230118352392012-06-14T18:34:48.724+10:002012-06-14T18:34:48.724+10:00The Jackson stuff is a sideshow to the Thommo issu...The Jackson stuff is a sideshow to the Thommo issue - nothing more than the bruvvers dealing with the rat in the ranks in time honored fashion.One has to wonder why they didn't surface all of her iniquities long ago? Probably because too much of it goes on in other unions, Andrew. Almost certainly because of that. But all they have left now is revenge - she's done the damage.<br /><br />You can rest assured Jackson will be history now that HSU has gone into Admin; but Thommo still remains in public eye and will almost certainly do even more damage to Labor before this is over which will continue to help your bete noir. <br /><br />I take your view about coalition needing to do better. Fair enough. But given you seem to be a progressive Liberal it's not to your credit, imo, these justifications for Thommo or the culture that produced him, still less shooting the messenger media. Takes away from your other critical assessments of media, especially when you write inaccurate stuff and don't correct it. Still, I guess it drives in the traffic from the luvvies eh?bbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-43304693908079832262012-06-10T17:47:21.217+10:002012-06-10T17:47:21.217+10:00I'd be fascinated to see your response to thes...I'd be fascinated to see your response to <a href="http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/thomson-8-the-hsu-family/" rel="nofollow">these</a>, keeping in mind both Fairfax and the Coalition have an interest in letting this run and run.<br /><br />I've never pretended Thomson is a saint. I do assert, however, that the Coalition will have to do better than this in order to govern the country.Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-7455135770499653432012-06-09T16:10:57.735+10:002012-06-09T16:10:57.735+10:00Well as it turns out, Andrew Elder, he filed a not...Well as it turns out, Andrew Elder, he filed a notice of discontinuence in return for Fairfax accepting $240,000 from him, financed by the members of the NSW ALP. Then he lied about it. <br /><br />This one's a weasel, and I suggest you stop falling for his bullshit. You might even care to correct the record, as all good media people should do.bbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-44367873287063997152012-06-09T14:42:11.966+10:002012-06-09T14:42:11.966+10:00Like it or not, Tony Abbott will be PM in about 18...Like it or not, Tony Abbott will be PM in about 18months.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-952892569776584932012-05-28T23:17:36.962+10:002012-05-28T23:17:36.962+10:00This is the most amazing thing ever. Only minutes ...This is the most amazing thing ever. Only minutes after reading the story by MadWixxy linked in this article I looked at the ABC website and saw this as the top story:<br /><br />http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-28/fair-work-australia-vice-president-deeply-involved-in-hsu-fight/4038274?WT.svl=news0<br /><br />"Fair Work Australia vice-president Michael Lawler has had direct involvement in the internal politics of the Health Services Union, the ABC has revealed.<br /><br />Leaked documents show Mr Lawler wrote a letter of complaint to New South Wales police last year on behalf of himself and his partner, HSU national secretary Kathy Jackson."<br /><br />So the ABC manages to 'reveal' a story already broken twelve days before - by an amateur blogger no less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-26441691928257014592012-05-27T19:07:39.885+10:002012-05-27T19:07:39.885+10:00Wicks now saying that the police undertook a selec...Wicks now saying that the police undertook a selective search of the HSUeast in early May.<br /><br />He should be getting his info to the PIC posthasteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-26064386188110653842012-05-25T11:26:01.701+10:002012-05-25T11:26:01.701+10:00If anything - we will only know if Thommo accepts ...If anything - we will only know if Thommo accepts Fairfax offer to waive confidentiality. Somehow I don't think he will, do you?<br /><br />Defamation cases can drag on forever. As I understand the chronology Fairfax had got its hands on the bigger story via the discovery process - once the defamation was dropped it was free to publish again with the results we see today. The whole action was a Thommo own goal, alas poor Thommo.bbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-67228735802207937272012-05-25T07:08:33.342+10:002012-05-25T07:08:33.342+10:00In return for ...?In return for ...?Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-83757847857257977662012-05-25T05:25:38.753+10:002012-05-25T05:25:38.753+10:00"First of all, Thomson didn't drop the ac..."First of all, Thomson didn't drop the action against Fairfax; they settled "<br /><br />Yes he did. He filed a Notice of Discontinuence.bbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-44429760850995221752012-05-23T20:53:49.997+10:002012-05-23T20:53:49.997+10:00http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/abbot...http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/abbott-should-prune-frontbench-dead-wood/story-fn53lw5p-1226301890283 (check it out in Google News)Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-23954774250838895702012-05-23T18:42:59.913+10:002012-05-23T18:42:59.913+10:00Dear Andrew, Some time ago you wrote about a deal ...Dear Andrew, Some time ago you wrote about a deal done between the government and the opposition in regards to front bench pay. I think it detailed that the opposition would have to give up more than it seems if they re-shuffled.<br />Could you provide me with that link, and maybe your source?<br />I know I could find it for myself, but my essay on the Harry Potter exhibition isn't going to write itself, and I'm already procrastinating enough as it is.....<br />Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-12240674514300755112012-05-23T09:59:33.436+10:002012-05-23T09:59:33.436+10:00What's the story behind Harmers taking on two ...What's the story behind Harmers taking on two cases pro bono? That can't be cheap for them. Some IPA funding perhaps?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-88892650384266960632012-05-22T23:12:44.105+10:002012-05-22T23:12:44.105+10:00I'm sorry but Space Kidette's got it compl...I'm sorry but Space Kidette's got it completely back to front. If I remember correctly, it was Fairfax's running of the story that prompted the defo claim - Thomson beat his chest saying he'd take them to the cleaners and then ... the matter settled a few weeks before the trial. No doubt on the standard terms as to confidentality (as another Anonymous suggested above). Though it didn't stop them all but saying he'd walked away with zip. Once that happened, then the story really caught fire - and was picked up by the other outlets.<br />Besides, it was one thing for Fairfax to risk a defo claim on a story where there's substantial independent documentary evidence (you know, those credit card statements). It's another for anyone to run a nudge-nudge-wink-wink piece saying X knows Y who knows Z and asking what that means.<br />I yield to no-one in my view that the Canberra press gallery are about as useful as tits on a bull. But, like I said, people need to take a cold shower on this one! I mean, some of the comments are bordering on conspiracy theorising.<br />As for that police raid, it may or may not have been kosher. But I sure as hell wouldn't be casting doubt on it print just because someone I don't know heard from someone *who works for the target of the raid and is otherwise unidentified* said it wasn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-8371584780791575662012-05-22T22:11:15.868+10:002012-05-22T22:11:15.868+10:00Explosive stuff from Wixxy on Independent Australi...Explosive stuff from Wixxy on Independent Australia. The 'p' in the credit card imprint alone would be enough to establish reasonable doubt.<br /><br />It would be worth checking hen the brothel in question began electronically processing credit card transactions - if it was before the date of the alleged card misuse then it blows another huge hole in the case against Thomson.Michael Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14888283343086845853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-71392952598311858912012-05-22T21:12:21.912+10:002012-05-22T21:12:21.912+10:00if he has evidence it should be referred to PICif he has evidence it should be referred to PICAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-32974090722292769582012-05-22T20:28:03.906+10:002012-05-22T20:28:03.906+10:00I've asked him, let's see what he says.I've asked him, let's see what he says.Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-23882505836185746202012-05-22T20:26:48.518+10:002012-05-22T20:26:48.518+10:00Oh no, not a defamation claim! I'm sure that i...Oh no, not a defamation claim! I'm sure that if a newspaper got a defo claim it would shut down! See Space Kidette above.Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-59912524545045306152012-05-22T20:25:54.267+10:002012-05-22T20:25:54.267+10:00As long as they have the internet there, this arti...As long as they have the internet there, this article should be discoverable.Andrew Elderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705844456819481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-44518074899196838832012-05-22T17:20:56.687+10:002012-05-22T17:20:56.687+10:00wixxy made serious allegations against the police ...wixxy made serious allegations against the police in his first instalment about the raid on HSU - follow up on this please?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-86500982231100692912012-05-22T13:33:00.880+10:002012-05-22T13:33:00.880+10:00Take a cold shower everyone! Maybe nobody (worth ...Take a cold shower everyone! Maybe nobody (worth suing) has run with the Jackson-Lawler-Abbott connection because to do so - by which I mean, more than just pointing it out - might lead to a defamation claim?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-58781737201320380102012-05-22T12:03:00.097+10:002012-05-22T12:03:00.097+10:00Is it worth sending this kind of article to an int...Is it worth sending this kind of article to an international news outlet? Some of them might be interested in why the Australian press is failing to investigate/report on this story. Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-53588072016871728892012-05-22T09:09:28.584+10:002012-05-22T09:09:28.584+10:00Very good article. Thanks for the link to wixxylea...Very good article. Thanks for the link to wixxyleaks. I found what was written their most interesting. Thompson has raised reasonable doubt, especially in light of what supposedly happened to Jacksons husband in regard to claims he was set up in 2009 in exactly the same way Thomspon says he was setup. And that was reported in The Australian? And now the same media are letting her get away with saying Thompson is delusional? It beggers belief. As yet I haven't heard one media outlet call her on it, I guess too much of their time and money and reputation is invested on making sure we all think he is a sick and delusional conspiracy theorist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-5298159223844750812012-05-22T09:06:35.452+10:002012-05-22T09:06:35.452+10:00I wonder how Thomson can even have a fair trial no...I wonder how Thomson can even have a fair trial now - you would think one of the first gambits his lawyers will pull will be to dismiss on those grounds.<br /><br />Personally, with the competence the FWA has shown to date, i doubt he will ever face a court anyway.BigBobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-58664252281915574972012-05-22T08:53:27.562+10:002012-05-22T08:53:27.562+10:00Thomson had some harsh words for the press gallery...Thomson had some harsh words for the press gallery, who deserved the censure in my opinion. This morning, we see why - a Murdoch rag running the headline, "We know he lied", by an anonymous staff writer. Classy journalism that.Chris Grealynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22534369.post-44747352189098155852012-05-22T08:23:58.288+10:002012-05-22T08:23:58.288+10:00I posted a comment on The Age asking why the relat...I posted a comment on The Age asking why the relationship between Jackson and Lawler has not been explored by Fairfax. They rejected the comment. Since Thompson's speech, they have not allowed the comment funtion on any of their pieces. They continue to play this down, when it is clearly an important piece in the puzzle.<br /><br />Something is going on there.kymbosnoreply@blogger.com